tfw2005
06-01-2007, 05:38 AM
I have an idea that could be very useful, but I dont think its in play right now.
Lets say User 1 creates an entry. He fills in all the fields, enters text, saves. This is now live. People can view it in the category it belongs in.
User 2 comes along. Sees that the info User 1 entered is not complete, or wrong. User 2 then edits the entry, fixing the items User 1 got wrong, and fills in the empty gaps.
This then goes to moderation.
User 1, or a Site Admin/Staff would then see the edits, and choose to approve, disapprove, partially approve (based on specific fields), or edit and approve.
The original entry stays live until the staff/User 1 approves the edits made by User 2 in some manner.
If Staff disapproves, the original entry stays live.
From what I understand, if i give everyone the ability to edit every entry in a section, then someone could easily come in and deface/erase entries. Even if it goes back to moderation before being seen, the original info is gone.
This is sort of a wiki train of thought, but with more of an editorial point of view, not a "community rules" point of view.
Usage Example:
Create a section with 500 entries. 50 custom fields available when submitting. Only thing entered is the entry title, and "coming soon" in the other fields by staff initially. Community then proceeds to fill in the blanks, with Staff approving and disapproving their entries as they do.
User 1 can enter info for custom fields A, B, and C. User 2 can enter info for custom fields A, B, C, X, Y, and Z. User 3 can enter something for all 50. We pick the best from each. Hit OK, full page now live. Credit to those that submitted and got approved show up on bottom of page in designated area (in theory, can be done by hand).
I know this may be massive and not really "cost effective" for you to do. Other method we had for this is to make the comments go to moderation for each article, never approve them, and have the comments be a "submission form", where people can enter info they know for each entry. Then Staff will manually enter it to the original entry, and credit them by hand in a designated custom field. This will require a template with different wording than "post reply" or "comments".
So maybe if you could create a nice template that is a choice when setting up the category like "Use Comment System as Submission Form?" - It will pull different phrases, graphics, and templates. Key would be, if there are custom fields for a category, that they are available to the general public when submitting replies to a given entry. Right now its just the text box for normal replies. That way, they can fill in info in exactly the same method we do to apply it to the original article.
I think this will give site owners a way to build an informational database using the power of their community, rather than slaving over doing custom pages and data entry themselves, keep it controlled unlike a wiki system (which I never found appealing), and using a pure Vbulletin script rather than a bridge or hack to another system.
Again, Blogicles is almost the answer for yet another large gap in using Vbulletin for content, not just a forum. I say fill it in and knock these mofo's off their feet. We have communities, we just need a way to get content organized and presentable using them.
Lets say User 1 creates an entry. He fills in all the fields, enters text, saves. This is now live. People can view it in the category it belongs in.
User 2 comes along. Sees that the info User 1 entered is not complete, or wrong. User 2 then edits the entry, fixing the items User 1 got wrong, and fills in the empty gaps.
This then goes to moderation.
User 1, or a Site Admin/Staff would then see the edits, and choose to approve, disapprove, partially approve (based on specific fields), or edit and approve.
The original entry stays live until the staff/User 1 approves the edits made by User 2 in some manner.
If Staff disapproves, the original entry stays live.
From what I understand, if i give everyone the ability to edit every entry in a section, then someone could easily come in and deface/erase entries. Even if it goes back to moderation before being seen, the original info is gone.
This is sort of a wiki train of thought, but with more of an editorial point of view, not a "community rules" point of view.
Usage Example:
Create a section with 500 entries. 50 custom fields available when submitting. Only thing entered is the entry title, and "coming soon" in the other fields by staff initially. Community then proceeds to fill in the blanks, with Staff approving and disapproving their entries as they do.
User 1 can enter info for custom fields A, B, and C. User 2 can enter info for custom fields A, B, C, X, Y, and Z. User 3 can enter something for all 50. We pick the best from each. Hit OK, full page now live. Credit to those that submitted and got approved show up on bottom of page in designated area (in theory, can be done by hand).
I know this may be massive and not really "cost effective" for you to do. Other method we had for this is to make the comments go to moderation for each article, never approve them, and have the comments be a "submission form", where people can enter info they know for each entry. Then Staff will manually enter it to the original entry, and credit them by hand in a designated custom field. This will require a template with different wording than "post reply" or "comments".
So maybe if you could create a nice template that is a choice when setting up the category like "Use Comment System as Submission Form?" - It will pull different phrases, graphics, and templates. Key would be, if there are custom fields for a category, that they are available to the general public when submitting replies to a given entry. Right now its just the text box for normal replies. That way, they can fill in info in exactly the same method we do to apply it to the original article.
I think this will give site owners a way to build an informational database using the power of their community, rather than slaving over doing custom pages and data entry themselves, keep it controlled unlike a wiki system (which I never found appealing), and using a pure Vbulletin script rather than a bridge or hack to another system.
Again, Blogicles is almost the answer for yet another large gap in using Vbulletin for content, not just a forum. I say fill it in and knock these mofo's off their feet. We have communities, we just need a way to get content organized and presentable using them.