xenforo and dynamix?

[Szene]

Hello Brian,

will you write in the future the Dynamix Software, for the new Software from Kier (xenforo) ?

I hope this so much, because we want move to xenforo in the next Time.

[Brian]

Possibly... It's hard to say much with Xenforo still being in it's development stages, but I'm definitely keeping an eye on things.

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[Szene]

Brian,

thank you for your answer. if you write the software for xenforo, is theire a way to convert the data from the vb-dynamix to xenforo-dynamix?

my problem is we plan to buy a lot of xenforo-boards, but we must have the dynamix tool for our projects. we want start, our projects now on a offline server (in a vb board) and want convert them if we have filled in all our datas to xenforo, if they release...and then we want buy 15 dynamics licenses, for xenforo (if you write this software)

target is to leave vb in the next weeks. i hope you can answer this. if you not start this project, i must find a other way, that we present our datas in xenforo.

[Brian]

I'm sorry, but considering that I haven't even seen the code from XenForo or anything more than the front-end yet, I can't really say for sure what our plans will be. *If* we create a XenForo Dynamics product then I'm sure we'll have an import script so you can easily transfer your vB data. Products similar to the CMPS and Links Directory are more likely to be the first ones on the list though, so keep in mind that *if* Dynamics is ported then it'll probably be at least a few months down the line and possibly well into next year before it's available.

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[Szene]

The time is ok. If we start with move our articles from the vb cms to dynamix from hand, i think we must have 4-5 month. in all our boards we have more then 10.000 articles in the cms. in our biggest board we have more then 30.000 articles. that will cost us a lot of time.

for me is only important, that you write this addon and that we can convert our articles from vb-dynamics to.....xen-dynamics.

if you write not a official addon, can you write dynamix for xenforo for my companie? we will pay this. i hope we come together.

[KW802]

Szene,

Right now it is too early to answer any questions about XenForo since nobody except their own staff members have seen the code. Once an alpha/beta build is available to developers to take a look at then better answers can be provided.

[Szene]

Thank you KW802,

that is clear. It is a hard Situation for my Companie at the Moment. We cant use the s.h.i.t vb4 longer. So we do our first Step and go go back to 3.8.6 and copy all our articles to dynamics.

We buy now for 3.8.6 new licenses here, and then i hope we can convert in the next time to xen, if you write this addon.

[Zachery]

I am curious what your actual problems with vB4 are?

[Szene]

Hi Zachery,

sorry my english is not the best so i can´t write all what we have for problems with the vb 4 :( in german i can write a big book with a lot of sites about, all the bugs we have in our boards. after 9 years vb, is the time now to switch away from vb. ib has destroyed a very good product.

[Zachery]

You can write it in german and I can tralsate it via friends/google.

What are the key points that are making you switch?

[Szene]

Hello,

i write you later a PM with this Points. Here is deep in the Night now :) And tomorrror our Team will start with the work (move our forums back to 3.8.6). I must sleep now.

[TheNakedMan]

Being a big board, I just don't like vBulletin 4.0. 4.1-xx might be a different story.

XenForo feels and looks much better to me from a user stand point. From what I've read the database is similar to 3.8.x. Saying that, it will be a long time before I upgrade to either.

[KW802]

Personally, I will be sticking with vB for my 'big' sites but am looking at XF for some of the small informal sites where vB is just an overkill for it. If XF comes in at a low enough price point then I can see it being used for those times where somebody doesn't want the overhead nor expense of vB but at the same time doesn't want to go with a free solution either.

[HenrikHansen]

Personally, I will be sticking with vB for my 'big' sites but am looking at XF for some of the small informal sites where vB is just an overkill for it. If XF comes in at a low enough price point then I can see it being used for those times where somebody doesn't want the overhead nor expense of vB but at the same time doesn't want to go with a free solution either.

Exactly

[Szene]

I'm sorry, but considering that I haven't even seen the code from XenForo or anything more than the front-end yet, I can't really say for sure what our plans will be. *If* we create a XenForo Dynamics product then I'm sure we'll have an import script so you can easily transfer your vB data. Products similar to the CMPS and Links Directory are more likely to be the first ones on the list though, so keep in mind that *if* Dynamics is ported then it'll probably be at least a few months down the line and possibly well into next year before it's available.


Any News Brian? I need the Dynamix for Xen.Come on Brian, lets go :)

[rgamill]

Any News Brian? I need the Dynamix for Xen.Come on Brian, lets go :)Two weeks have passed and there is no reply from Brian. At least say something in regards to XF and Dynamics integration.

[Brian]

It will be at least a few months before a XF Dynamics version is available.

[rgamill]

Good to know that eventually there will be Dynamics for XF. Waiting for "Files" option. :-)

[rgamill]

XenForo 1.0.0 Release Candidate 1 moves us one step closer to a stable release. This release includes a number of bug fixes, as well as a few small feature changes. The focus is now solely on working towards a stable release. We'd like to thank all our customers and everyone else who has helped us to reach this milestone.

http://xenforo.com/community/threads/xenforo-1-0-0-release-candidate-1.10808/#post-145790

[rgamill]

It will be at least a few months before a XF Dynamics version is available.2.5 months have passed. Brian, how much longer do we have to wait? I didn't ditch vBulletin only because I was waiting for xF Dynamics to be released. Now I am starting to think about giving up on Dynamics altogether.

[Brian]

I'm sorry, but it's going to be at least a few more months before a XenDynamics product is available.

[ibaker]

Xenforo has gone v1.0.0 today "Hooray" just need XF CMPS and XF Dynamics now...can't wait Brian...if you need a beta test please just let me know...I can find bugs before they are even born :)

[Szene]

Brian,

are you working on the software? Or will you start your work in a few months?

i wait so much on the xendynamics. i am very happy with xenforo, but i must have a database tool for our forum :)

[fos]

I have two licenses for XenForo, I hope to purchase Xen Dynamics as soon as it is available.

Thanks, Jeff

[sifuhall]

I will pick up Xen Dynamics as well.

[rgamill]

I'm sorry, but it's going to be at least a few more months before a XenDynamics product is available.Any update on the progress or release date?

[ibaker]

Same here...my site has been screaming since converting to Xenforo and I really miss the vbadvanced products...Xenforo is one really incredible product

[Brian]

I'm sorry, but at this point it will likely be closer to the end of the year before XenAdvanced is up and running. As much as I would love to get something going, I need to wait to see how the lawsuit with vB plays out first.

[ibaker]

VB has already lost in the US and then lost again to Xenforo for security of costs in the UK

[CareyCrew]

VB has already lost in the US and then lost again to Xenforo for security of costs in the UK

You really need to get your facts straight before posting things like this.

vB had a motion to secure costs issued against them here in the UK which was granted, the case here in the UK has not been started.

In the USA vB withdrew their motion to stop sales of XenForo that is all, the case is still proceeding.

[ibaker]

This morning, the U.S. District Court for the Central District Court of California granted our motion to dismiss the 7th and 8th claims made by vBulletin Solutions Inc. against XenForo Ltd. and Kier Darby.

The alleged computer hacking violations of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, 18 U.S.C 1030 and California Penal Code § 502 were dismissed with prejudice. There was no allegation of unauthorized access.

"I'm delighted that these two unfounded claims have been dismissed and cannot be refiled," stated Kier Darby, co-director of XenForo Ltd. "We look forward to the dismissal of the remaining claims and invite any person with access to the source code of both vBulletin and XenForo to compare the code and discover the manifest truth that the XenForo software was independently created and infringes none of vBulletin's rights. Neither the vBulletin Solutions lawsuit in California, nor its earlier duplicate counterpart in England, should ever have been filed."

[CareyCrew]

Read your own post ......... the 7th+8th claims the rest are still proceeding.

Shamil updates the info at vB.com on a regular basis, the thread is here >> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php/371874-Internet-Brands-claims-against-Xenforo-(part-2) <<

[rgamill]

I'm sorry, but at this point it will likely be closer to the end of the year before XenAdvanced is up and running. As much as I would love to get something going, I need to wait to see how the lawsuit with vB plays out first.Whatever outcome the lawsuit brings, it is unlikely Xenforo will disappear. I don't understand why you are so cautious about it. For example, vBGallery is still around.

[CareyCrew]

Whatever outcome the lawsuit brings, it is unlikely Xenforo will disappear. I don't understand why you are so cautious about it. For example, vBGallery is still around.

vB Galllery ......... exactly, you have answered your own question. That product may be around but it is not to Brian's benefit.

With the explicit threat laid down by IB against XenForo and anyone using it, IF they were to win the case anyone writing code would also be in line for a lawsuit and the loss of all their work.

Brian cannot afford to spend hundreds of hours on something that may be killed off anymore than you or I can.

[Brian]

Carey is pretty much spot on with what he said. If I was rich and had free time then it wouldn't be an issue, but I have bills to pay and need to be sure that things go well before I spend the time on it. Then again, if I was rich I would be on a beach somewhere so it would be a moot point anyway. :p

[rgamill]

With the explicit threat laid down by IB against XenForo and anyone using it, IF they were to win the case anyone writing code would also be in line for a lawsuit and the loss of all their work.That's something totally new to me. Unless they are in a product-kill mood, why would they sue addon developers?

Carey is pretty much spot on with what he said. If I was rich and had free time then it wouldn't be an issue, but I have bills to pay and need to be sure that things go well before I spend the time on it. Lawsuits can drag on for years. Abandoning hope for XenDynamics and looking elsewhere seem to be the way to go under these circumstances. Sad...:(

[CareyCrew]

That's something totally new to me. Unless they are in a product-kill mood, why would they sue addon developers?

Lawsuits can drag on for years. Abandoning hope for XenDynamics and looking elsewhere seem to be the way to go under these circumstances. Sad...:(


Go back and look at the first posting IB made on this subject and you will see the veiled threat against even license holders ......... you could face having to switch platform.

[motowebmaster]

I respect Brian's decision, but If XF unexpectedly loses the court case and I were forced to make a change, my XF site won't be switching to vb.

[fos]

I also respect Brian's perspective. I still have two licenses for vB 4 Suite. I will spend no more money maintaining vBulletin. At this point, my expenditures are going to both Invision Board and Xenforo. I have renewed a two licenses for vBadvanced recently. Until Xenforo is supported here, I will have to look elsewhere.

Sorry

[ibaker]

I currently have a developer building a XF <-> vb bridge so I can use vb addons for my XF site.

[Szene]

I currently have a developer building a XF <-> vb bridge so I can use vb addons for my XF site.

and is it working?

a shame, that brain not support the best forum-software on the market......