Sale Down the Drain

[Teco]

Guys, you really should re-think your whole sign-up / purchase process.
Here's my story:

Surfing around and stumble upon your CMPS application. go through the demo's, read up on it, play with it a little and i'm very impressed. I decide this is something i should get my hands on for a site i'm considering doing rather than to code my own and basically reinvent the wheel.

So i click "Download" expecting to be prompted to sign-up and/or purchase the app. Naturally it prompts me to signup. So i do. Confirm the account via email and back to the site. Now it says unlicensed. Seems fine as i haven't had a chance to purchase a license yet.

So going through your pages, it says "click here" to get your license verified. Well naturally i can't, throws up "you do not have a license". Next issue on the page states "go to vbulletin" and sign up with the same email. I do so and yet i'm right back into the same issue. Except on vbulletin it says "click here" to get your license verified and goes to a windows login prompt which does not take any user/pass.

Basically your system isn't very straightforward at all and it's ultimately a little too confusing when you're having to sign up on 2 different sites, then ending up at the same issue over and over where it just states "you have no license"

Wouldn't a simple "buy now" and do it all into one big wizard be a little more useful? Sadly, i'm going to be moving on and looking at other products at this point as it's just way too much of a hassle to acquire your software.

The app looks great, too bad the system to acquire such a product is more complex then it needs to be.

[Zachery]

Let me ask you one simple question, do you have a legal vBulletin license? :)

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vBa CMPS is *FREE*, you don't have to buy it. You just have to prove that you have a legal vBulletin license.

[SVTOA]

Let me ask you one simple question, do you have a legal vBulletin license? :)

Exactly. The CMPS does no good without Vb3, which requires a license, so if you have one, it's no big deal to go thru the verification process, and besides, anyone who uses VB3 and does any modding you would **think** they frequent the vbulletin sites too!

To get a program like CPMS free is quite generous of Brian and Zachery.

Don't tell them I said so but I'd have GLADLY paid for CMPS!!!! :D

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[Brian]

If you already have an account on vbulletin.org (which most people do) then the whole processes here should take less than a minute and most people don't seem to have a problem at all. It would be nice if there was a better way, but right now this is the only way we have to help prevent unlicensed users from obtaining our products.

[civilwartalk]

I have to agree in part with Teco. My problem with the vBadvanced web site is similar.

I'm searching for a good CMS to replace my existing static web site, and this one looks quite good. However since I do not own a license for vBulletin (yet) I can't see any documentation on how vBadvanced is installed, how it integrates with vBulletin and SQL.

I'm looking for a complete solution, forums and CMS system, but if I can't get one I don't want the other. I'm not going to fork out $$$ for vBulletin if I don't know that vBadvanced is going to work with my needs.

I can see the frustration of Teco, I feel it too.

Also, while I'm at it, there's no "Pre-Sales Questions" forum for people like me. Where would I ask the following question?

- Does vBadvanced support running on a seperate SQL database from vBulletin, or are both systems required to be run from the same SQL database? I'm concerned about disk space limitations, speed, and reliability. Running the CMS in it's own database would allow for better db optimzation and less table structure degration. Also each db would have less traffic and cause less server load than a combined db.

You've got a nice CMS available here, it may be just the thing I'm looking for. I also really like the looks of vBulletin. I hope you get started on better footing with other visitors in the future.

Thanks, I hope to learn more about this system in the near future.

[mholtum]

- Does vBadvanced support running on a seperate SQL database from vBulletin, or are both systems required to be run from the same SQL database? I'm concerned about disk space limitations, speed, and reliability. Running the CMS in it's own database would allow for better db optimzation and less table structure degration. Also each db would have less traffic and cause less server load than a combined db.
No database is required to run CMPS. Technically, all you are doing is installing a hack. CMPS is completely dependant on VB and has a very light footprint, if any on your server load.

The install for me took 5 minutes, and I am no genious when it comes to this.

[civilwartalk]

No database is required to run CMPS. Technically, all you are doing is installing a hack. CMPS is completely dependant on VB and has a very light footprint, if any on your server load.


I guess this means that since vBulletin requires MySQL, and vBadvanced is a simple hack, any content added in the CMS is piggybacked into the vBulletin MySQL database. If my analysis is correct that explains some of my questions.

Thanks.

[KW802]

I guess this means that since vBulletin requires MySQL, and vBadvanced is a simple hack, any content added in the CMS is piggybacked into the vBulletin MySQL database. If my analysis is correct that explains some of my questions.

Thanks.Correct. During the install CMPS will create 4 new tables that are used to store it's settings (eg: The modules and their settings, the pages and their settings, etc.). It will also then insert new templates & phrases. When it comes time for data such as the news items, calendars, etcetra all of that is pulled directly from the vBulletin tables.

[phoenixdown]

One of the benifits to the setup is that if you decide to use certain forum content on your front page, it can pull it directly from the datastore which is more server friendly than new queries, esp on high hit front pages.

[wacodep]

I'm not going to fork out $$$ for vBulletin if I don't know that vBadvanced is going to work with my needs.
So, you want to pick up a set of tires BEFORE you decide to buy the car? Sounds silly to me!

vBulletin purchase, download, install and configure was simple, painless and quick.

Registration, license verification and vBa download was about a 3 minute process, tops. Installation was another ... hmmm ... 2 minutes, tops.

It's not that difficult ... really ...

[groberthall]

Sorry to drag back an old post but ut goes partway to amswering a question I have. ( I should stress here that I am a little vague about exactly what a CMS is )

If the CMS is designed to post articles.... and the pages reside in the database.... does the content of the article reside in the database as well ?

The reason I ask is that i am restricted to the size of database with my host and articles could fill it quickly.

Thanks
Graham

[Darax The Good]

Yes, the articles reside in the database. The CMS lives around vB.